ʻenekini Mercedes-Benz OM654
Nā mea
ʻO 4-cylinder diesel power unit i hana ʻia e Mercedes mai 2016. ʻO ke kumu hoʻohālike mua i hoʻolako ʻia me kēia ʻenekini ʻo ia ka E220 D. Ua hoʻokuʻu ʻia ka ʻenekini ma ke kūlanakauhale ʻo Stuttgart. Ua pani ia i ka OM651 kahiko.
ʻO ka ʻike o ka mīkini OM654
I ka US, ua hōʻike mua ʻia ka mīkini ma ka Detroit Auto Show. ʻO ka hoʻololi mua o ka ʻenekini ʻo ia ka DE20 LA version, i lako me ka Common Rail direct injection. Hāʻawi ke kaomi o kēia ʻano injector a hiki i ka 2000 bar, kahi e hāʻawi ai i ka hana maikaʻi. ʻO 1950 cm3 ka nui hana o kēia hoʻololi, a ʻokoʻa ka mana ma waena o 147-227 lita. Me.
ʻO ke kino mīkini a me ke poʻo cylinder i hana ʻia me ka alumini alumini, nā pistons i hana ʻia me ke kila paʻa. Hoʻopili ʻia nā cylinders me kahi mea Nanoslide kūikawā e hāʻawi i ka pale mai ka friction. Hoʻomaʻalili ʻia ke kaʻa e ka turbine me kahi ʻāpana i hoʻololi ʻia ma ka puka komo.
Loaʻa i ka ʻenekini kahi koho i kapa ʻia ʻo exhaust recirculation, inā ʻaʻole ka pahu EGR. Hāʻawi ia i nā pōʻai he nui o nā kinoea hoʻopau. ʻO ka mea hoʻoheheʻe diesel ke kuleana e hoʻohaʻahaʻa i ka pae CO2. Inā ʻaʻole ia, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka nitrogen a me ka sulfur i hoʻokuʻu ʻia i ka lewa. Ma waho aʻe o kēia mau mea, aia kahi kānana diesel a me SCR i loko o ka ʻōnaehana exhaust. No laila, ʻo ka nui o ka hoʻokuʻu ʻana he 112-102 g / km, e hoʻokō piha ana i nā kūlana Euro 6.
Hoʻopau ka mīkini OM654 ma kahi o 4 lita o ka wahie no 100 mau kilomita. ʻO ke kaʻa me ia ka wikiwiki i hoʻokahi haneli i 7,3 kekona.
| Volume hana | 1598 knm 3 |
| Ka mana a me ka torque | 90 kW (122 hp) ma 3800 rpm a me 300 Nm ma 1400-2800 rpm |
| Nā kaʻa i hoʻokomo ʻia | C 180d |
| Volume hana | 1598 knm 3 |
| Ka mana a me ka torque | 118 kW (160 hp) ma 3800 rpm a me 360 Nm ma 1600-2600 rpm |
| Nā kaʻa i hoʻokomo ʻia | C 200 d lawe lima lima |
| Volume hana | 1950 knm 3 |
| Ka mana a me ka torque | 110 kW (150 hp) ma 3200-4800 rpm a me 360 Nm ma 1400-2800 rpm |
| Nā kaʻa i hoʻokomo ʻia | C 200 d 'akomi, E 200 d |
| Volume hana | 1950 knm 3 |
| Ka mana a me ka torque | 143 kW (194 hp) ma 3800 rpm a me 400 Nm ma 1600-2800 rpm |
| Nā kaʻa i hoʻokomo ʻia | C 220 d, E 220 d |
| Volume hana | 1950 knm³ |
| Ka mana a me ka torque | 180 kW (245 hp) ma 4200/min a me 500 Nm ma 1600-2400/min |
| Nā kaʻa i hoʻokomo ʻia | E 300 d, CLS 300 d, C 300 d |
| OM 654 DE 20 turbo | OM 654 O 20 KA | |
|---|---|---|
| Ka neʻe ʻana o ka ʻenekini, cubic cm | ||
| Kaha kiʻekiʻe, h.p. | 245 | 150 - 195 |
| Kaha ikehu kiʻekiʻena, N * m (kg * m) ma ka rpm. | 500(51)/2400 | 360 (37) / 2800, 400 (41) / 2800 |
| Hoʻohana ʻia ka wahie | ||
| Kahi ʻai, l / 100 km | 6,4 | 4.8 - 5.2 |
| ʻenekini ʻano | ||
| Ka hoʻokuʻu ʻana o CO2 ma g / km | 169 | 112 - 139 |
| Kaha kiʻekiʻe, h.p. (kW) ma rpm | 245(180)/4200 | 150 (110) / 4800, 194 (143) / 3800, 195 (143) / 3800 |
| Supercharger | Turiline | ʻAʻohe turbine |
| ʻŌnaehana hoʻomaka | ||
| Hoʻolaha kūlā | ||
ʻO ka ʻike o ka mīkini OM656
6-cylinder power unit mai ka moʻo hou, me ka nui hana o 2927 cm3. Ua hoʻokomo mua ʻia ma ka W222 S-Class. He 313 lita kona mana. s., a he torque o 650 Nm. E like me ka hoʻohālikelike ʻehā-cylinder ʻōpio, ʻo ka mīkini like ke kino alumini a me nā pistons kila i uhi ʻia me Nanoslide - he mea hao a me ke kalapona. No laila, ua like ka paepae modular no ka hui 4 a me 6-cylinder.
ʻO ke kaomi turbo hiki i 2500 bar, ʻoi aku ka liʻiliʻi ma mua o ka mana 4-cylinder. Hoʻohana ʻia ʻelua turbocharger, kahi e hoʻonui nui ai i ka hana o ka mīkini. Aia ka ʻōnaehana hoʻopau o ka ʻenekini i kahi kānana particulate a me kahi ʻōnaehana SCR. Eia kekahi, ua lako ka R6 diesel hou me kahi ʻōnaehana exhaust hui.
Ua pani ka OM656 i ka OM642. Hoʻolako ʻia ka ʻenekini me ʻelua camshafts me ka manawa o ka valve variable, injection me ka wai reagent e hoʻomaʻemaʻe pono i nā kinoea hoʻopau.
| Volume hana | 2925 cm³ |
| Ka mana a me ka torque | 210 kW (286 hp) ma 3400-4600/min a me 600 Nm ma 1200-3200/min |
| Nā kaʻa i hoʻokomo ʻia | CLS 350 d 4MATIC, G 350 d 4MATIC, S 350 d |
| Volume hana | 2925 cm³ |
| Ka mana a me ka torque | 250 kW (340 hp) ma 3600-4400/min a me 700 Nm ma 1200-3200/min |
| Nā kaʻa i hoʻokomo ʻia | CLS 400 d 4MATIC, E 400 d 4MATIC, S 400 d |
ʻO ka wehewehe ʻana o ka mīkini OM668
ʻO ka mana mana he diesel inline ʻehā me ka nui o 1,7 lita. Hana ʻia ka kaʻa e ka mahele o Mercedes-Benz - ka hui Daimler. Ua hoʻokomo ʻia ka mīkini ma ka W168 a me W414 mai 1997 a 2005.
Hoʻokomo wahie OM668 Kaʻaahi Maʻamau. Hoʻohālikelike ʻia me ka M166 like, hoʻohana ʻia nā 4 valves ma kahi o ʻelua. Hoʻohana ka mīkini hoʻoili kinoea ma muli o ʻelua camshafts overhead me kahi kaulahao. Hoʻohana ka kaapuni mua i ka camshaft intake, pili ka exhaust me ia ma o kahi pahu pahu. ʻO ke kaulahao ʻelua e hoʻohuli i ka paila ʻaila, e loaʻa ana ka mana mai ka crankshaft.
Hoʻolako ʻia nā hoʻololi āpau OM668 me kahi turbocharger a hana ʻoi aku ma mua o 59 hp. Me. ʻO kahi intercooler ke kuleana no ka hoʻolili ʻana. I ka pae mua (1997), ʻo kēia mīkini ʻehā pahu ka mea liʻiliʻi loa ʻo Mercedes-Benz diesel. ʻAʻohe ʻokoʻa mechanical ma waena o nā mana, koe wale nō ka mana haʻahaʻa 59-lita e hana me ka ʻole o ka intercooler hoʻololi. ʻaʻole naʻe i ka torque. ʻO ka hopena he hopena pololei o ka paʻa maikaʻi ʻole o ka W 2001.
Loaʻa ka mana maikaʻi o ka mīkini - hiki ke hoʻonui maʻalahi i kona mana me hoʻokahi chip i 118 hp. Me. I ka manawa like, ʻaʻole pilikia ke kumu kaʻa i kekahi ʻano, ʻoiai ma muli o ka piʻi ʻana o ka torque, e pau koke ka clutch.
| Ka mana a me ka torque | Nā kaʻa i hoʻokomo ʻia | |
|---|---|---|
| OM 668 DE 17 A/668.941 | 44 kW (59 hp) ma 3600 min a me 160 Nm ma 1500-2400 min | He 160 CDI (1997-2001) |
| OM 668 DE 17 A ʻulaʻula./668.940 ʻulaʻula. | 55 kW (74 hp) ma 3600 min a me 160 Nm ma 1500-2800 min | CDI 160 (2001-2004) a me CDI Vaneo |
| NO 668 DE 17 LA/668.940 | 66 kW (89 hp) ma 4200 min a me 180 Nm ma 1600-3200 min | He 170 CDI (1997 – 2001) a me Vaneo 1.7 CDI |
| NO 668 DE 17 LA/668.942 | 70 kW (94 hp) ma 4200 min a me 180 Nm ma 1600-3600 min | He 170 CDI (2001 – 2004) |
Enekinia OM699
ʻEhā Turbocharged, i hana ʻia me ka hui pū me Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi. ʻIke ʻia kēia kaʻa ʻo YS23.
Ua kope 'ia ka ho'olālā kumu mai ka Renault M9T, akā ua ho'ololi 'ia ka mīkini me ka ho'ololi 'ana i ka 2,3 lita. Eia nō hoʻi kahi lākiō kōmike ʻokoʻa (15,4) a me ke poʻo cylinder i hoʻololi ʻia. Ua nāwaliwali ka hoʻololi ʻana ʻo DE23 LA, ʻoiai ʻoi aku ka ikaika o nā ʻāpana me nā turbines. Hoʻokō nā kaʻa a pau i nā kūlana Euro 6.
| Ka manaʻai | ʻO Torke | Nā kaʻa i waiho ʻia ai | |
|---|---|---|---|
| OM699 DE23 LA R | 120 kW (163 hp; 161 bhp) ma 3750 rpm | 403 Nm ma 1500–2500 rpm | W470 X220, Nissan Navara, Renault Alaskan |
| OM699 DE23 LA | 140 kW (190 hp; 188 bhp) ma 3750 rpm | 450 Nm ma 1500–2500 rpm | W470 X250D, Renault Master, Nissan Navara, Renault Alaskan, Nissan Terra |
| Kai | E nā kāne, ua maopopo iaʻu ua hana nā kaʻa R4 a me R6 hou me kahi kaʻa uila 48V i kēia manawa ma ke ʻano he mea hoʻolaʻa ikehu i ka wā e hoʻopaʻa ai (e noʻonoʻo iā ia he generator), a ma ke ʻano he mea hoʻomaka i ka wā e hoʻomaka ai ka ʻenekini. |
| MegaPosh | ʻAe, ʻaʻohe kāʻei a me ka mīkini hana maʻamau, i kēia manawa ke hana nei ka condo a me nā ʻano pauma ʻē aʻe mai ia mea. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ma muli o ke ʻano o ka hoʻoulu ʻana me kahi kickdown o 20ls, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu mai ka kikokikona, pono e loaʻa kahi pākaukau? |
| Kai | ʻAʻole, ʻo 12V wale nō ka mīkini hana, ʻo nā poloka a pau a me ke kukui i koe 12V, a kau nā mea hana ma luna o nā kaʻa. E hoʻokuʻu paha i lalo mai ka pau ʻana o ke kaʻa ponoʻī a me ka ʻenekini me kahi turbine uila))) Me he mea lā ʻaʻohe lag i kēia manawa ma Mers-Benz |
| ʻAʻole paʻa | ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu, inā e hoʻopuka ka in-line hou i nā pūʻali 408, he pani anei kēia no nā hiʻohiʻona 500th, ala cls a pēlā aku? a laila ma hea lākou e hoʻokomo ai i ka m176 i hoʻololi ʻia inā hoʻololi ʻo ia i ka ʻenekini 4.7, i hoʻokomo ʻia i nā hiʻohiʻona 500s, akā e like me kaʻu i kākau mua ai, e hele ana kahi laina 500 hou i ka 6s |
| Vadim80 | maikaʻi, maopopo iaʻu nā mea a pau, 4.7 o nā ʻano ʻelua, no 2 mau pūʻali a no 408 455 mau pūʻali i ka laina 408 hou e pani ai, a 6 mau pūʻali (s papa, gle) e pani i kēia mīkini hoʻololi mai amg gt |
| Kai | ʻOiai ke kau ʻia nei ka M176 ma Gelik, ʻo ia wale nō ka 500 me kahi mīkini hou i MB i kēia lā. |
| Lamaku | R6 - e kū nei ma ka 500th ma Eska a me Eshke coupe / sedan / kabrik |
| ʻAʻole paʻa | Ma hea lākou e hoʻopili ai i ka 4.0 hou, i hele mai e pani i ka 4.7 455-ikaika? a ma hope o nā mea a pau, he 455 ikaika i hoʻonohonoho ʻia WALE ma GLE / GLS / S / MAYBACH i nā papa maʻalahi a lākou i kau ai i ka 4.7 like, akā ma 408 FORCE !!! (e / cls, etc.) Manaʻo wau e hoʻololi ʻia ʻo 408 hp 4.7 e R6, a ʻoi aku ka nui o nā hiʻohiʻona i loaʻa iā 455 hp e kau i kahi 4.0 hou!! no ka mea, ua hoʻohālikelike ʻia ka R6 hou i ka ikaika me ka 4.7 mua, he 408 pū kekahi. |
| Kai | Ua lawa ka 330km/h, 350km/h ua emi loa, a ʻaʻole pono ʻo 391km/h. |
| ʻO Yarik | ʻO ke kumu o ka R6 hou e hāʻawi i ka hana o kahi mīkini ʻewalu cylinder me ka haʻahaʻa haʻahaʻa. Hoʻomaka ka ʻenekini petrol hou (ka helu kūloko: M 256) i ka makahiki aʻe ma ka derneuen S-Class. |
| Vadim80 | ʻO Plastic EVERYWHERE a me ka alumini .... E like me ka palena mau mileage (programmed) He mau kaukani ma ka haneli MAXIMUM. A laila e hekili kēia mau mea a pau, lele i loko o nā pahu ... "Iron", e like me kaʻu i hoʻomaopopo ai, ʻaʻole i loko o nā mīkini diesel .. .. |
| Kai | No ke aha ʻoe e noʻonoʻo mau ai i nā mea ʻino |
| Vadim80 | ʻAʻole maikaʻi. Akā hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike koke. Ua kaupalena mua ʻia ka waiwai e ka mea hana. ʻAʻole hiki i kēia mau mea ke hana ma mua o 100 tausani km! |
| Volodya | ʻO nā "poʻe loea" 5 mau makahiki i hala aku nei i ʻōlelo like i ka mea like e pili ana i ka mīkini 651st - akā ʻaʻohe mea, ʻoiai ma nā sprinters e hānai ʻo ia i 800 i kēlā me kēia. , ma ʻEulopa 25tyr ...") |
| Crimean | Volodya, mai hopohopo, ʻaʻole e waiho ʻia nā pahu me ka hana ʻole |
| ʻO Yako | ʻO nā apo he kaʻa no sq7 aia kekahi turbo uila, ʻoiai aia kahi mīkini diesel v8, pono e hoʻohui. |
| Vadim80 | No kekahi kumu ʻaʻole wau e ʻike i nā minoʻaka ma nā maka o nā mea nona nā ʻenekini ʻaila MB ALL. ʻO kēlā me kēia kumuhana - PILIKIA. A hoʻololi lākou i ka ʻaila i ka manawa a me he mea lā ʻaʻole he palaualelo ... a hiki iā lākou ke ola. Akā ma ka Pōʻakahi ua hānau ʻo MB iā lākou (nā ʻenekini). ʻO kahi laʻana ʻē aʻe he 30000 km ka Merc, a ua loaʻa iā ia ka ʻaila i loko o ka aila ... he mea maʻamau kēia? ʻAe, ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou (MB) ke helu i ko mākou ʻoiaʻiʻo a me nā kūlana. He SHIT ka wahie! ʻO ia ke kumu aʻu i kākau ai e pili ana i ka plastic a me ka alumini i nā poloka. Hiki i nā ʻenekini kahiko ke hoʻoheheʻe i nā mea āpau ... nā FIG hou me ka ʻaila. A ʻaʻole kēia he mea no nā hihia kaʻawale ʻo MB he kaʻa ultra-modern i hoʻolālā ʻia no ka moʻomeheu ... |
| Kai | He ʻokoʻa koʻu ʻike, ʻaʻohe mea i loaʻa i kaʻu mau kaʻa, ʻaʻole wau i ʻike i ke ʻano o nā manaʻo pessimistic. No ka plastic, ua lōʻihi ia i ka ʻoihana ʻenehana, i nā kaʻa maʻamau a me nā motorsport. No ke aha wau i hoʻoholo ai, ʻaʻole, ke noʻonoʻo nei au he aha ka node a i ʻole ka hopena constructive i paipai iaʻu e kākau i kēlā hopena? |
| Crimean | Ua heluhelu au i ka Internet |
| Vadim80 | ʻOi aku ka maikaʻi o ka hao hao ma mua o ka alumini. |
| Kai | ʻO wai ka mea hana e hana nei i nā poloka hao, e hāʻawi i nā laʻana |
| Hoʻomanaʻo ʻo ia | MAZ? |
| A i ʻole | Aloha/ no laila he aha ka mea e kū ai ma ka hana kīʻaha s400 ma Ianuali 20th?? hiki paha ke hoʻopanee a i ʻole Panama i ke kauwela me kahi mīkini liʻiliʻi, e haʻi mai iaʻu i ka mea a ke guru e hana ai? |
| Kai | ʻO ka mea āu e makemake ai, a laila e lawe, nā kaʻa ʻokoʻa loa |
| A i ʻole | no laila hiki ke kaʻa hou? no s400 cupe / ʻaʻole paha ma mua o Malaki / hoʻemi nui no ka mv |
| Kai | ʻAʻole wau i manaʻo ʻoi aku ka nui o ke kaʻa hou ma hope o ka hoʻomaha |
| Vadim80 | ʻO kāna mea i kākau ai ma kāna pou ... i hōʻoia ʻia e ka "MBeshniks" iā lākou iho ... Holomua no ke kūʻai aku ʻana a ʻaʻole hou. Ma ke kumu, inā hoʻokumu ʻia ke ola. No laila pono. a ʻo lākou ... A inā e lawe ana ʻo ia i nā pahu pahu? |
| Kai | E nā kāne, he aha ka pilikia, aia kahi koho, a aia kekahi pūʻulu o nā kaʻa ʻē aʻe, pono, inā manaʻo ʻoe e hana ʻino ana ʻo MB, kūʻai mai kahi mea hana ʻē aʻe. |
| Vadim80 | ʻAʻohe koho ... he mea kūʻai aku nā mea a pau .. e wehe i ka palaoa. Loaʻa i nā kānaka a pau i kēia manawa. ʻAʻohe mea hoʻopilikia i kēia kumuwaiwai i kēia manawa. ʻO kahi waiwai nui i kēia manawa he hewa no nā hui… ʻaʻole pono. |
| Kai | E Slu, Vadim, ua lawa paha ka lawe ʻana i ka hysteria, akā ua loli ka honua, nā mea ʻē aʻe a pau, e ola paha i ka mea kahiko, a i ʻole ʻoe e ʻae i ka mea i kēia manawa. |
| Vadim80 | He aha ke ʻano o ka hysteria? ʻAʻole ke Akua. Ua hoʻonohonoho ʻia ka honua i kēia manawa. No ke aha e hiki ʻole ai ke kūkākūkā? Hāʻawi wale i kēia manawa no kahi huila mai 4 miliona, makemake wau e huakaʻi hou aku .... ʻAʻole kālā he 4 miliona .. ma ka laulā, aia kā mākou kanikau ma ka pahu ... |
| Kai | ʻAe, no ke aha ʻaʻole, hiki, ke kūkākūkā nei mākou ʻaʻohe mea o mākou i hoʻokele i kēia manawa, a ʻaʻohe o mākou i ʻike i nā ʻōlelo a nā mea hoʻokele MB mai ka hoʻokuʻu ʻana iā mākou iho Ua haʻi mua ʻia ʻaʻole i ʻike ʻia nā mea āpau i ka MB i nehinei, a i ka manawa lōʻihi, ua hoʻokō ʻia ʻo ia i ka wā i hana ʻia ai nā kino 220/215, inā ʻaʻole ma mua. ʻAe, ʻo ka pan me kahi kānana i hana ʻia i ka plastic, maikaʻi, nā mea kākoʻo i hana ʻia i ka plastic, maikaʻi, nā mea komo i hana ʻia i ka plastic, no laila he aha! E pili ana i ke kumuwaiwai, ʻo ia hoʻi, nā mea i 10-15 tkm hiki ke pepehi i ka mīkini a me ka pahu pahu 160 tkm, ʻelua a me ka liʻiliʻi, ʻae wau, akā ʻoiaʻiʻo - 5-6 mau makahiki, me kahi hōʻoia o 2 a i ʻole. i kēlā me kēia makahiki mai MB. Akā maopopo iaʻu me ka mālama mau ʻana, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka hala |
| moikotik | E nā kāne, maikaʻi, ua kākau ʻia ma Rūsia ma ke keʻokeʻo: "160 tausani km ka mea maʻamau no ka ʻoihana kaʻa." Kūlana! ʻO ia hoʻi, he maʻamau hoʻopaʻa ʻia ia, incl. no na enekini e holo maoli ana i ka hapalua miliona kilomita. Hoʻopili piha ʻia ka pilikia. |
| Vadim80 | He mea maʻamau anei ke kūlou i mua o ka huaʻōlelo MB??? Loaʻa iaʻu kahi MB a no laila e hele ai e like me ka mea e pono ai a ʻoluʻolu hoʻi, pono wau e hana i kahi walaʻau-pili-hoʻopaʻa i loko. A ua maopopo keia mau enegini hou .. e inu nui lakou i ke koko. Hookahi puhi a me ka paila paipu ... .. Aole hiki ke ola loihi ka plastic i ko kakou mau kulana, oi loa aku ma ia mau wahi. Ua kanalua o MB no lakou. ʻaila kānana. ʻAe, pono anei ʻo ia ma laila? ʻO kēia ke kuko, ʻaʻole ka holomua .... A he aha ke ʻano o ka "mileage" he 160 tausani ??? Hoʻokahi ʻakaʻaka. I koʻu huakaʻi ʻana a puni ka ʻāina no ka hana. ʻOi aku ka maikaʻi o ka taxi ... |
| A i ʻole | akā, ʻaʻole au e kauo i ke kīʻaha s400 a me ka Shumka pū kekahi, a i kēia manawa ʻaʻole au e kūʻai i nā hiʻohiʻona hou /// Ua kūʻai mau wau i nā hōʻailona ʻē aʻe a ua maikaʻi nā mea a pau. |
| Szasik | E haʻi mai iaʻu, ʻo me-déjà vu wale nō anei? ʻO ia hoʻi, nā mea hou a pau he mea kahiko poina? He aha ka "mea hou" o ka inline ʻeono (koe wale nō ke kumu kūʻai peni o ka hana ʻana)? Me he mea lā ua pololei ka poʻe e manaʻo nei i ka waiwai palena o nā kaʻa hou. ʻOi aku ka liʻiliʻi o ka mīkini i loko o ka laina ma mua o ka ʻenekini V. E kala mai, akā, ʻo ka laina ʻeono i loko o kahi poloka alumini he mea hoʻopunipuni (ola wale nō 160 tausani). Ua wahī ʻia i ka hao hoʻoheheʻe me ka wili, i loko o ka alumini ʻaʻole maopopo loa ke ʻano o kona ola ʻana. A laila, ʻo ka "hauʻoli" nui o nā ʻenekini i loko o ka laina e hoʻonui i ka wela o nā cylinders mamao mai ka paila (no ka lōʻihi o ke ala hoʻomaha). Pehea e hoʻi ai i kēia? Manaʻo wau me hoʻokahi wale nō pahuhopu - super profit. |
| ʻO Artem | Ma ke ala, he nīnau kaʻu, e nā kāne, ʻo wai ka mea i lawe i kahi kaʻa hou a holo aku ma mua o 160 tausani km ma luna me ka kūʻai ʻole ʻana? .... a i ʻole e ʻae ʻia, lawe i kahi mea i hoʻohana ʻia a hiki i 30 tausani a holo aku ma mua o 160? |
| Vadim80 | 260 tausani maʻalahi a ʻaʻole koi ʻia ... a me nā mea āpau i 3.5 mau makahiki. ʻOiaʻiʻo ma ka ʻōlelo Kepanī. |
| Crimean | Ua holo au ma 221122 diz 386tkm A ua maikaʻi |
| moikotik | Nīnau e pili ana i MB? A i ʻole? Inā maʻamau ka nīnau, a laila ua holo au i ka SAAB (9-3) no 5,5 mau makahiki, a ua holo au ma kahi o 160000 km. Ua pana ka kaʻa mai ka mea hou a hoʻomau i ka pana, no ka mea, ʻaʻole ia i koi ʻia e hoʻonui i ka aila (ʻaʻole i ka gram) ma waena o ka mālama ʻana, a hoʻomau ʻole e koi ... hoʻololi i ka aila i kēlā me kēia 20000). Ma ka laina turbo ʻehā me kahi poloka alumini, ma ke ala |
